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Jesus was a Jerk.
Replies: 21 — Last Post July 24 3:53am by Kitty Kiska
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HarrySunderland


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Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 10:48 pm on July 22, 2008
Quote: from HarrySunderland at 7:44 pm on July 22, 2008
Yeah he said he anyone who doesn't believe in him is condemned to hell, thats why he said spread the word because he wants to save everyone possible.
But Jesus is supposed to be the embodiment of God.  And God is supposed to be "All Knowing"

So if he knows everything, he knows from the first second you are born when you will die, and where you will go.

So God in turn sends people to hell, no matter what they do, because he already knows what they will do.  And that, is very evil indeed.

Just because you know what someone will do doesn't mean you can't give them a choice.

Thats called predestination, there are however people who believe that god limits his knowledge so he doesn't know what people will do to allow free will to take place.  Its all about what you choose to believe.

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draakprinses


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Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 7:34 pm on July 22, 2008
You know what I guarantee, half of you didn't even click the link.

Which is what you were counting on I'm sure.

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Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 9:48 pm on July 22, 2008
Quote: from HarrySunderland at 7:44 pm on July 22, 2008
Yeah he said he anyone who doesn't believe in him is condemned to hell, thats why he said spread the word because he wants to save everyone possible.
But Jesus is supposed to be the embodiment of God.  And God is supposed to be "All Knowing"

So if he knows everything, he knows from the first second you are born when you will die, and where you will go.

So God in turn sends people to hell, no matter what they do, because he already knows what they will do.  And that, is very evil indeed.

Is this the reason you argue that He doesn't exist, because you believe He is evil?

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theneogon


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Wow the article was sooo dumb.  I almost think it was written as a mockery of atheist agruements.  If your going to hate on Jesus at least present some good agruements!

I don't feel like replying to all the agruements, but i'll do one.  The site says that Jesus stole a whole herd of pigs.  If you read the bible it says that Jesus cast a demon out of a human who was cutting himself with rocks (ancient form of wrist cutting).  The demon was so scared of Jesus that it fled into the pigs and caused them to run into the water where they died.  I'm pretty sure that doesn't count as stealing.

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clomb

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That same point is made quite alot, but it in no way makes God evil. Yes, God knows the choices I will make and knows my eventul fate etc but they are my choices to make. If I somehow knew you were going to crash your car it wouldn't mean I crashed it. Yes, the typical definition of God means that God is all-powerful and so could stop these 'bad' choices being made but then we wouldn't have free will and wouldn't really be people.
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Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 7:27 pm on July 22, 2008
Now that I have your attention, click the link below and read on.

 
http://www.godisimaginary.com/i39.htm

 
I have done this not for the sole purpose of pissing off Christians, but to try and somewhat enlighten you on your religious delusion. (I was once a Christian by the way, if that helps at all.)

 

You are a jerk.

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Kitty Kiska


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All that link did was call him a jerk...with no significant evidence for their statement

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